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« on: July 17, 2010, 12:39:00 AM »

So...any chance we could get something like a Shadowland/Jackpoint subforum somewhere down there in the IC section?

The opportunity for little IC interactions on the forum might lead to bigger ones on the MUSH itself.
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2010, 08:11:20 AM »

I second that!
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2010, 08:41:19 AM »

The goal for IC boards was to provide info for NS:SE , but that hasn't really surfaced as a feasible option, which is why we're still in Wild West. There we had hoped to keep content related to this phase of the system in order to prevent confusion as to which board is for current activity (Runner's Saloon)

I'll see what the higher ups think. My rebuttal is will Jackpoint or the like really spur more activity? I often wonder if a run or scene is possible it wouldn't be too difficult to say ' hey non-idling players, lets organize a run and try and get it done within the next week or so, starting tonight!' The Harrison ford job post seemed to yield some players' interest but i do not think or know if it was run successfully beyond that point.

However, if you want to use it to instill shape and color to your current scenes, thats something i'm in favor for. I love additional information and backstory to put more meat on the scene bones both before and after an event. Then you give more insight and data for the players to relate about which encourages on scene and off scene interaction.

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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2010, 08:59:28 AM »

I don't see why not, though the board would appear in the Wild West section, not the IC section. Unless Melkir has some objection one of us will take care of it this weekend (I'm not currently at a computery place).
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2010, 01:25:15 PM »

I don't really care where it goes, I just saw 'IC' and figured since this would be IC interaction...

But there's really no way to know how successful it'd be without trying it, is there?
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2010, 03:36:38 PM »

I can see the future. I'm sorry in advance for the growth.
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2010, 05:01:32 PM »

That's okay Melkir, you don't need to worry about the growth. I'll love it like it was my very own.

P.S. Thanks.
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2010, 08:51:51 PM »

So, the request to put up a Shadowsea/Jackpoint forum got me to thinking:  Why?  No, not why bother, but why just a forum?  Why not do something that somewhat mimics what ShadowSea/Jackpoint/etc really is?  One option (that popped into my head just now actually) is that we could somehow convince the staff on here to somewhat convert newseattle.org into something like ShadowSea.  I mean we already have to sign up through here in order to get an account on the game, so why not?

My first thought however, and one that got me to start doing some research on the pdfs I have is this:  Why not make a separate website link that basically draws from the ideas from the likes of ShadowSea, Jackpoint, Nexus, and Exchange?  If there isn't room under the newseattle.org, I'm willing to front the money needed to set something like this up (as long as it isn't overly expensive of course).  I'll start doing research on editing and maintaining a project like this, but for now I'd definitely prefer to have someone (or some people) that is already knowledgeable.

I'm thinking something that we could post up character dossiers, information gleaned from runs that you'd like to share with other
runners as some sort of advice, and maybe some sort of Merit/Point/Rep system.  Blogs could be linked (since you can likely find many a blogsite out there that is free or has a very small fee) or we could create blogs through the site.

My job has recently switched to me being more immobile in the evenings, so it allows me plenty of time to come up with crazy ideas that probably don't make sense.  I initially started thinking of how cool it would be to have a Jackpoint style listing thing that you could post up potential runs/plots, character information, and whatnot.  Then I realized that one forum addition could be a little... meh. I then thought about that complex forum system that Denver has set up and my nose started bleeding. I mean, great and all, but seriously, it makes me cry just thinking about it.  Anyhow, the potential to create something crazy for the Seattle Shadowrun (and the general Shadowrun) community is too tempting of a possibility.  I might even try and figure something out even if the response is more or less negative.  Get it all figured out and posted up and blamo, re-pitch the idea with flashes of wonderful awesomeness (that potentially won't be presented until January of next year *sadface*).

If someone is interested in doing something like this, I am MORE than willing to front the cost needed for hosting services.  If I was back home, I'd just throw up my old server computer system and start getting back into the grove of webpage editing (I haven't touched anything resembling web page editing in several years other than wiki style stuff) and figure out how to host some sort of service through it.  But alas, I'm not there.

Ahem, that was going off in another direction.  Anyhow again:  If someone (can be plural!) is interested in assisting in a project like this, toss up a reply or send me a PM.  Alternately, you can simply email me at ryanbusbyalt@gmail.com.  I have several ideas that I'd like to throw around concerning some sort of web page style ShadowSea.

Additionally, I'm not pitching this simplify baked (I work from 12am to 8am local time right now) idea solely for the fun of it.  I think something like this that is actively maintained could even draw in new players, people who want to GM, and even people who'd like to share their own advice and opinions on how we could enhance the site (New Seattle and our unnamed ShadowSea style site).

Before I end this spammy rant of a post, this is a rundown of what I envision (most of which is being pulled from Runner Havens):

A character Dossier with links to active alts.  Something that a Mr/Ms
J./a fixer can use as a pool.
A list of rumors flying around Seattle based off of runs done by players.
A blog (if desired) made by or linked by individual players/groups of players (I'm looking at Ducks for that inspiration)
A credit rating given out by runners, Js, and fixers.
A listing of hard to find data compiled by our runners and hackers.
Some sort of wiki (shadow-wiki)
Postings of Blacklisted NPCs/PCs/whatever.  All to be voted upon by players.  Maybe nix that in favor of just the credit system.
A comprehensive list of regularly used Js (generic or not), contacts that people would like to share, etc for IC or OOC purposes.  I know we have this on the forums already, but wouldn't it be easier to easily click and find the information instead of searching for it on the forums?)
Jobs posting.  This doesn't have to be actual runs even.  This could be something like Sigil needing to find someone who can hook him up with some tuneups on his drones, or someone needing to find data and need a hacker to help out, or something.
Possibly in the future, a list of teams that actively come together on runs (even though I'm anti-dedicated groups, I try not to have bias towards them!).

That's just a few of the ideas I have.  I hope I can garner some support for this.  If not, I'll just figure out how to put things
together over the course of the next 6 or 7 months then try and re-pitch it once I get back to the states (and hopefully have some sort of shell set up for people to take a look at).  I know this could be a major undertaking, but I think the payoff will be well worth it.

Finally, does anyone have any suggestion on website editing/creation tools to download and mess with?  I have some on one of my computers back home (that are probably grossly out of date), but not on my deployment laptop.  I was thinking of tooling around with making a blog, website, etc offline to get myself back into the flow of site editing.  Free/Costly, it doesn't matter.  As long as it is userfriendly, offline, and  decent, I'll look into it.
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2010, 11:34:52 PM »

It's not a matter of hosting space. It's pretty much what I tried to do for four years. I'd suggest a wiki for contacts (I still have all the files people wrote on those) but some of that other stuff is pretty ambitious for a game that people tend to drift in and out of.

As for some of the other stuff, you've got the Runner's Saloon, which can be used for rumors if people so desire. You've got Jackpoint, which is a natural source for rumors and runner interaction. We've also got the twitter feed that hasn't been utilized. I'm not sure that piling additional blogs and websites and links on top of what we've got (which does essentially the same thing and is the natural starting point for the game) is really going to improve people's interest in the game. Rather, it's just more white noise.

That said, this is a player-run game. If you want to try doing something, go ahead and do it. If you need staff support, ask. Hosting space issues: Melkir is the go to man.
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2010, 11:49:44 PM »

Twitter feed!  I'd forgotten all about that.  The blipit thingie or whatever.  Yeah, like I think I mentioned at the beginning, nothing is stopping us from utilizing the sources we already have.  You're right on the fact that people tend to drift in and out of, but that isn't the purpose behind my desire.  My desire is to simply contribute to a gaming system that I fell in love with. Smiley

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